Next, to satisfy robbery, the question of force against the person must be established. Case law suggests that this can be minimal, but it must be sufficient to be noticeable and it is a matter for the jury to decide. In Dawson & James, a nudge was sufficient; in Clouden, force directed at a handbag was sufficient. The person threatened also does not need to be the person from whom the theft occurs not the victim need to be scared; B & R v DPP.