On physical examination, the child usually has a wide pulse pressure. A typical continuous (systolic and diastolic) "machinery" murmur can be heard at the upper left sternal border or under the left clavicle in older children. In newborns, the murmur may not be quite so characteristic, perhaps a short grade II or III harsh systolic sound. An ECG is generally normal, although it may show ventricle enlargement if the shunt is large. Echocardiography provides good visualization of the patent ductus.