not all pain is removed so its not effective - emotional pain - addisted dying would be better as no pain - argued that eolc removes all pain possible, not just medication but spiritual and holistic care - humanists disagree as eolc done with good intentions and supports patient - ad should be available so can choose - results in patient having full autonomy when care begins and ends - i agree as it makes comfortable, emotional pain is a part of life and something we mut accept